[Updated 11/27/22]
Subject: Everything you ever wanted to know about SARMs including a legit source to buy them from.
Hey guys, are you ready to learn all there is about SARMs?
I hope you have your reading glasses on because you are going to read everything that you need to know about SARMs.
We are even going to cover every aspect of every SARM.
Table of Contents
What Are SARMs?
SARM stands for selective androgen receptor modulator and they work similarly to anabolic steroids, as a matter fact so much so that they are often referred to as steroid alternatives.
Basically these compounds have similar properties to anabolic steroids but with reduced androgenic properties.
These steroid alternatives stimulate androgen receptors specifically in muscle and bone cells, which accelerate muscle and bone growth, while having little effect on the other cells in the body, unlike anabolic steroids.
SARMs are made to select only certain muscle and bone tissue. They don’t target other regions of the body like the prostate, liver, and the brain.
This means accelerated muscle and bone growth without unwanted growth in other parts of your body.
BREAKING NEWS ON SARMS
On November 19, 2019, Senator Chuck Grassly has proposed a bill to Congress to ban all SARMs (https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-whitehouse-introduce-legislation-regulate-sarms). If passed SARMs will become a controlled substance.
Guy and gals, we need to stock up now because in my honest opinion it doesn’t look good. I’m guessing the ban will be pushed through within 2 to 6 months.
This proposed ban has gathered lots of support by powerful regulatory bodies, one of them being the World Anti Doping Agency (WADA).
Once the bill is passed, good luck trying to find high quality SARMs. All suppliers will shut down and a new underground market will emerge. The problem with this is they will be much harder to find and will be much more expensive due to lots of demand and low supply.
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Brief History And Legality Of SARMs
SARMs were first introduced in 1998 and they were invented to fight muscle wasting and bone wasting conditions such as cancer, cachexia, and osteoporosis.
Even though there has been many positive clinical studies which yielded positive results, SARMs are not clinically approved for consumption, and as a matter of fact their future looks bleak.
As of today, 2018, SARMs are sold legally as “research chemicals” so as long as businesses sell these compounds stating that they are not for human consumption and are only for research purposes, they can legally sell them.
I call it using the for research purposes only loophole, but I have bad news for you guys, as with everything that actually works, SARMs will probably be banned outright soon.
Legislators are currently working on a strong bill that they will soon propose to congress, when it passes (very likely) SARMs will be illegal in every way, even creating these SARMs as research chemicals will be illegal.
They will be categorized as a schedule III controlled substance, just like anabolic steroids.
What does this mean exactly?
Friends, sorry to say this but I strongly believe SARMs will either go extinct or become very very expensive (due to low supply vs high demand).
The reason being that businesses won’t risk the consequences of breaking the law with creating and selling these schedule III controlled substances (soon to be SARMs), when they can sell another schedule III controlled substance, anabolic steroids. Their Profit margins are much larger, the market is much larger, and they are more effective. Say bye bye to SARMs.
Are SARMs Safe? Are They Safer Than Steroids?
They are definitely safer than steroids, no doubt. That’s the appeal with SARMs. The question still up for debate is, how much safer?
From reading hundreds of personal reviews, various scientific studies, and personally taking SARMs myself, I conclude that they are generally very safe and much safer than anabolic steroids.
I have done blood work after every cycle I have been on, and every lab test has come back normal.
The thing is this, there is a wide variety of SARMs, and they are all different, including their side effects. Some are safer than others.
Feeling overwhelmed? Don’t worry, I will break down every SARM in depth.
Breaking Down Each SARM Individually
As always I am going to keep it real with you guys, before breaking down every SARM I want to point out that I have not tried them all out.
The information that I am going to provide for each individual SARM will be based off of the general consensus from all the information that I have gathered up from doing very in-depth research.
While breaking down every SARM I will share with you my personal opinions, personal experiences, and offer some advice.
Without further delay, lets begin.
Ostarine (MK-2866)
Ostarine was first developed my a huge multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical company called Merck and now currently in a clinical testing phase by a company called GTx, Inc.
Ostarine was created and developed to stop and reverse muscle and bone wasting. There is high hope and lots of promise that this compound can help cancer patients that suffer muscle and bone atrophy.
Meanwhile people all around the world are getting there hands on Ostarine and using it for its anabolic properties to improve physical performance. People are also using it to build muscle and lose fat.
Ostarine like all SARMs, have been prohibited by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA). Do you know why that is? BECAUSE IT WORKS. Don’t listen to people who say SARMs are bullshit drugs that don’t work, they either got fake SARMs or were taking it incorrectly.
If they didn’t work they would not be banned by the WADA, plain and simple.
Benefits/What to Expect
Ostarine is probably the most popular SARM and for good reason, it is very mild but produces great results.
It is not suppressive therefore you don’t need to worry about amortization (although I would have a PCT on hand just in case).
It is well known for having little to no side-effects, lean dry gains, and for holding on to muscle during a large caloric deficit.
Ostarine is a very flexible compound that is great for either muscle growth or cutting fat, depending on your objective and how you use it.
If your goal is to gain muscle expect to gain anywhere between 4 to 10 lbs with gaining any fat (as long as you not in an extreme caloric surplus) in the standard 12 week cycle.
If your goal is to lose fat Ostarine is a God send as you can go on a pretty big caloric deficit (500-1000 cal) and maintain all your hard earned muscle.
Ostarine will also moderately increase your recovery time, strength gains, and strengthening of soft tissues (tendons and ligaments).
Negatives/Side Effects
Ostarine stands out from just about every other SARM because the side effects are so few and far between. I personally know dozens of friends and acquaintances who have taken Ostarine without experiencing a single side effect.
Also, like most SARMs Ostarine is also non-methylated meaning It wont effect your liver in anyway.
Keep in mind that the following side effects are only the possible side effect that you may experience if you follow the recommended dosing. Shall you dose higher than whats recommend you many experience side effects not mentioned.
- Cold Sweats
- Lethargy
Dosing Information
For both bulking or cutting take 25mg of Ostarine daily for 12 weeks for optimal results.
Ostarine has a long half-life of 24 hours, so you only have to take 25mg once a day.
If you are taking the recommended 25mg you won’t need to take a PCT (post cycle therapy) after your cycle, however I still recommend having a mini PCT on hand just in case you need it.
My Thoughts On Ostarine
This is my favorite SARM out of all of them and I strongly recommend anyone who is starting out with SARMs to take Ostarine as their first cycle.
I also believe this is the best SARM to take if you want to cut fat due to its ability to combat muscle wasting.
It is also my favorite because it is the safest SARM. It has been studied extensively longer than any SARM and has just about no sides effects as long as you take the recommended dose.
I used Ostarine 4 times, 2 times cutting and 2 times bulking, and achieve great results every time and experience zero side effects.
I gained about 7 lbs of lean muscle on both of my bulking cycles and gained about 1-2 lbs on my cutting cycles which is pretty remarkable since I usually lose a good amount of muscle when I go into a large caloric deficit.
During my cutting phases I would say my overall strength increase slightly, which is still amazing due to the large caloric deficit I was in. During my bulking phases I had a very decent increase in strength, around 10% in all lifts.
If you go against conventional advice and take over 25mg daily I strongly recommend a legit PCT (post cycle therapy) such as Arimidex.
High dosages of Ostarine can cause your body to stop producing its own testosterone. I use and recommend Clomid from Sarms4Sale which works great.
I always have it on hand just in case I have a shut down, better safe than sorry.
Clomid Dosage: Take 12.5mg daily for 30 days.
Where Can I Buy Ostarine?
Click here to purchase from my recommended source (the source I personally use) Sarms4Sale.
Not only are do Sarms4Sale offer the best prices, they sell 100% legit SARMs. They make all there products in the USA and are even lab certified by a 3rd party to demonstrate the quality of their SARMs.
If you decide to buy from a different source please do your due-diligence as there are lots of companies currently selling pro-hormones claiming they are SARMs.
This is because in 2014 pro-hormones were banned and many companies are now stuck with huge stocks of pro-hormones so they are trying to get rid of them by claiming they are SARMs.
Also, only purchase SARMs in liquid form, it significantly lowers your chances of receiving pro-hormones (pro-hormones are sold mostly in capsule form).
Be cautious if a company is selling SARMs at a price which is too good to be true, as there is a much higher chance that you might be purchasing bunk SARMs.
Expect to pay around $50 for a month’s supply, so the recommended 12-week cycle will cost you around $150.
Ligandrol (LGD-4033)
Ligandrol is also a super popular SARM, probably just under Ostarine in popularity.
Ligandrol was created by a pharmaceutical company called Ligand. Ligandrol just like Ostarine and most SARMs was created to combat catabolic conditions for muscle and bones.
Benefits/What to Expect
LGD-4033 is the best SARM hands down if your goal is to bulk up and gain lean muscle.
You can expect to gain anywhere from 8-18 lbs of pure lean muscle mass in a 12 week cycle.
You will see a pretty large increase in strength gains and recovery time.
Ligandrol is also effective at strengthening of soft tissues (tendons and ligaments).
Negatives/Side Effects
Side effects are rare with Ligandrol and as long as you take the recommended dose, however do they exist.
- Mild headaches
- Mild nausea
- Fatigue
Dosing Information
For optimal results take anywhere between 10mg to 20mg of LGD-4033 daily for 12 weeks.
I recommend starting with 10mg for the first 4 weeks and taking 20mg for the remaining 8 weeks.
The half-life of Ligandrol is 24 hours so you only need to dose once a day.
This compound is similar to Ostarine but much stronger, therefore a mini PCT is necessary as Ligandrol is suppressive.
My Thoughts On Ligandrol
Ligandrol for muscle gaining is probably the 2nd closest SARM to anabolic steroids in terms of how powerful it is.
It is the 2nd strongest SARM in existence therefore if your goal is building lean muscle this is the SARM for you, just don’t forget to take a legit PCT as it is suppressive, I recommend Clomid from Sarms4Sale.
Clomid Dosage: Take 12.5mg daily for 30 days.
I wouldn’t recommend this SARM for cutting as Ostarine works just as good to combat muscle wasting and is a much more mild compound.
I have taken Ligandrol 2 times for bulking and achieved amazing results. I took two 12 week cycles.
On my first cycle I gained 12 pounds of lean muscle, and on my second cycle I gained 13 pounds of lean muscle. I also had crazy strength gains, I would say I gained about 20% strength in major lifts.
My 1 rep max flat barbell bench press was previously 315 lbs, I was able to max 365 lbs after 8 weeks of Ligandrol.
I was able to toss around the previous weights I was lifting with, it felt amazing.
From here on out you wont read me strongly recommending any other SARM as I only recommend taking either Ostarine or Ligandrol.
I believe these are the safest SARMs and have been studied more extensively than all other SARMs, which are newer therefore long-term health related issues are less known.
Where Can I Buy Ligandrol?
As with all the other SARMs I recommend purchasing Ligandrol from Sarms4Sale (the source I use for my SARMs), their products are always 100% legit.
As mentioned before if you decide to buy from a different source please do your due-diligence as there are lots of companies currently selling pro-hormones claiming they are SARMs.
This is because in 2014 pro-hormones were banned and many companies are now stuck with huge stocks of pro-hormones so they are trying to get rid of them by claiming they are SARMs.
As I mentioned, only purchase SARMs in liquid form as it significantly lowers your chances of receiving pro-hormones (pro-hormones are sold mostly in capsule form).
Cardarine (GW-501516)
Cardarine was recently developed by GlaxoSmithKline plc for its potential benefits on the heart, blood vessels, and diabetes. However, studies were halted in Phase II testing on rats because it caused cancers.
As time went on Cardarine became very popular in the body building community as a very popular cutting agent as it significantly increases fat oxidation.
Benefits/What to Expect
Cardarine is touted as the best SARM for fat loss due to how it improves fat oxidation significantly.
Expect your endurance to be improved significantly as Cardarine activates and hence increases the level of PPAR gene, helping muscle fibers increase oxygen uptake (the amount of oxygen in your muscle tissues affects your endurance).
Cardarine lowers the levels of bad cholesterol (LDL) and increases the good cholesterol (HDL) in the body.
This compound is also pretty effective at preventing muscle wasting which in conclusion results in Cardarine being the most effective SARM for cutting fat.
It is not suppressive therefore no pct is required.
Negatives/Side Effects
Cardarine has very few potential short term side effects that rarely occur but do happen.
- Headaches
- Nausea
- Fatigue
Here is the scary thing about GW501516 that scares a lot of people off and it was the reason that it took me so long to finally try it….during the mice trials there were a few incidents of cancer growth.
But I wouldn’t worry as a recent study has concluded that Cardarine prevents malignant growth of cancer cells in prostrate, colon and breast, which is amazing since because these are common types of cancer. Check out the study here.
Dosing Information
For optimal results it is recommended that users take 10mg daily for 12 weeks.
The half-life of Cardarine is 24 hours so you can take 10mg just once per day.
Take 6 week breaks between cycles.
My Thoughts On Cardarine
I used to have a highly negative view on Cardarine but I admit I was wrong.
I recently went on a 8 week cycle and have concluded that it is the best SARM on the market ( technically a PPAR delta activator) for purely fat loss and endurance.
I went from being able to run a 7 minute mile, down to 5 minutes, in 7 weeks!
I would definitely recommend it to all endurance athletes and anyone looking to shed fat.
However if you are a competing athlete be careful because Cardarine is banned by pretty much every competitive sporting agency (because it works).
Check out my full review on Cardarine here.
Where Can I Buy Cardarine?
Click here to buy legit Cardarine from Sarms4Sale.
Andarine (S4)
Andarine was developed with the goal of treating muscle and bone wasting.
There aren’t any published studies of this, but Supposedly phase I human trials with this drug have reportedly been successful.
Development of this drug has been halted in favor for another SARM we mentioned, Ostarine.
Benefits/What to Expect
Users claim similar results to that of Ostarine, good for either bulking or cutting.
Moderate increase in strength, recovery time, and endurance.
Negatives/Side Effects
Andarine is widely known for often causing users to see a yellow tint, especially when going from an area with little light to lots of light and vice versa.
Andarine is said to be slightly suppressive so a mini pct is recommended.
Dosing Information
There is no set dose for this drug, as there are no publicly available clinical trials. Most recommendations come from personal experiences forums, yikes.
The consensus seems to be 50mg to 75mg per day (divided into 3 doses taken with meals), for 8 to 12 weeks.
The average half-life of this compound is about 4 hours, that is why user must take 3 doses a day for optimal results.
My Thoughts On Andarine
I never tried this SARM and probably never will because it is similar to Ostarine yet less effective, hence why the studies were halted in favor for Ostarine.
Also, I don’t find anything that screws with my vision appealing and so should you.
Also, there are so few studies if any on Andarine that people are not even sure how they should dose it or how much they should take.
There is so much uncertainty with this SARM that I just recommend you stay away from it and use Ostarine instead.
Where Can I Buy Andarine?
If you decide to take Andarine I recommend buying it here.
YK-11
YK-11 is another compound that often debated if it is really a SARM. YK-11 works similar to a myostatin inhibitor.
Per Wikipedia “Myostatin a protein produced and released by myocytes that acts on muscle cells’ autocrine function to inhibit myogenesis: muscle cell growth and differentiation. In humans it is encoded by the MSTN gene. Myostatin is a secreted growth differentiation factor that is a member of the TGF beta protein family.”
“Animals either lacking myostatin or treated with substances that block the activity of myostatin have significantly more muscle mass. Furthermore, individuals who have mutations in both copies of the myostatin gene have significantly more muscle mass and are stronger than normal. There is hope that studies into myostatin may have therapeutic application in treating muscle wasting diseases such as muscular dystrophy.”
YK-11 was first discovered by a scientist name Yuichito Kanno in 2011 and with his studies he proved that YK-11 produces the same results as testosterone except it does not have any detrimental side effects.
YK-11 is a very powerful compound, unlike every SARM mentioned here, it is steroidal. The compound belongs to the modulators of androgen. YK-11 attaches itself to the androgen receptor and it leads to all of the traditional effects of androgens such as hair growth.
Benefits/What to Expect
YK-11 is one of the most powerful SARMs if not the most powerful. It is great for building lean muscle or preventing muscle loss during a caloric deficit.
YK-11 can also help fight arthritis.
Negatives/Side Effects
YK-11 is very potent and it has several potential sides effects.
- Unwanted hair growth
- Enhanced aggression
- Liver Damage
- Weakening of the Joints
There hasn’t been many side effects noted with this compound however due to it’s high potency and that it is methylated by the liver it is highly recommended to run a pct with this compound and also a liver protector both during your cycle and after.
Dosing Information
For optimal results take 10mg daily for 12 weeks.
The half-life for YK-11 is only 6-8 hours so for best results take 5mg of YK-11 twice per day.
My Thoughts On YK-11
YK is a relatively new SARM and I have not tried it so I am not going to recommend it as it has not been studied enough for my liking. That being said it seems that YK-11 is very effective at building muscle.
In terms of effectiveness it seems on par with Ligandrol, so in my opinion I would rather take Ligandrol as it is a better known commodity as well as it is safer on the liver.
Where Can I Buy YK-11
For some reason YK-11 is one of the most faked SARMs out there, I recommend you click here and purchase from my source, Sarms4Sale. They are lab certified from a third party, you don’t have to worry about getting a fake product with them.
Nutrobal (MK-677)
This compound is not technically a SARM, it is actually a Human Growth Hormone secretagogue, Nutrobal stimulates the pituitary gland to secrete HGH.
Nutrobal is currently being developed medically to fight growth hormone deficiencies in people of all ages.
The compound is currently sitting at the pre-clinical stage awaiting the next step, the future looks bright for Nutrobal.
Benefits/What to Expect
Nutrobal is a very flexible compound, it can be using for bulking, cutting fat, and even for overall well-being.
Whats so great about Nutrobal is that it has so many benefits and has almost no side effects.
Unlike HGH it does not cause a shut down to the pituitary gland. Also, unlike HGH you don’t have to inject it and it is so much cheaper.
Users are raving about Nutrobal for many reasons.
- Great at halting fat gains even when eating more calories
- Moderate increase in muscle mass
- Mild increase in strength
- Strengthens soft tissue
- Improves quality of sleep
Negatives/Side Effects
Side effects are very rare and usually occur if users take more than the recommended dose.
- Slight increase in appetite
- Temporary bouts of lethargy and numb hands
Dosing Information
Nutrobal is pretty remarkable as users have gone 2 years taking it continuously without any shutdown of the pituitary gland after stopping.
For optimal results take 15 to 30mg daily for 12 weeks. I recommend taking 15mg for the 1st month then doubling it to 30mg.
The half-life of Nutrobal is 24 hours so you just need to take it once per day.
My Thoughts on Nutrobal
I have have only taken MK-677 as a stack, with Ostarine. I have take a 12 week Ostarine cycle with and without MK-677 and I definitely noticed better results with Nutrobal included with the SARM cycle.
If you have the extra money I would definitely use Nutrobal to enhance your SARM cycle.
See my full MK-677 review and results here.
Where Can I Buy Nutrobal?
Click here to buy 100% legit Nutrobal from my source (third party lab certified).
Stenabolic (SR-9009)
Per Proven Peptides,
“SR9009, also known as Stenabolic, is a SARM that was developed at the Scripps Research Institute. It is a PPAR alpha modifier very similar GW-501516. It binds to the Rev-erbα protein, which influences lipid and glucose metabolism in the liver and the creation of fat-storing cells.
Stenabolic has been found to increase mitochondria, the powerhouses of your cells. Once mice were given Stenabolic, they were able to run for 50% longer than non-treated mice. It has also been found to aid weight loss.”
Proven Peptides
This SARM is similar to Cardarine in how it works and the effects it has on users.
Benefits/What to Expect
The magic of Stenabolic is in it’s ability to significantly increase endurance.
“let’s say you were to go on the track and sprint 800 meters (1/2 a mile) in 5 minutes and you reached 90% of your maximum heart rate and felt winded. Then you started taking Stenabolic (SR9009) and after a week or so you did the same thing. You would be able to run that same distance at the same time, while only reaching 75% of your maximum heart rate. Your body did not have to push as hard to accomplish the same cardio, hence making any sort of exercise so much easier with the same end results. Now if you were to take things further and push yourself back up to 90% of your maximum heart rate. I bet you could easily knock 20-30 seconds off your 800-meter time. That is the magic of Stenabolic (SR9009)!”
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Other benefits are just added bonuses. Also, no pct is required whatsoever with Stenabolic.
- Slight decrease in bad cholesterol (LDL)
- Increase in metabolism
Negatives/Side Effects
There are no known side effects with Stenabolic, however, the keep in mind that the long term implications of Stenabolic are unknown but since SR9009 isn’t technically a SARM and actually a metabolic modulator it will most likely have less potential side effects than traditional SARMs.
Dosing Information
There is a lot of misinformation when it comes to dosing Stenabolic.
Most of the information out there on Stenabolic (SR9009) dosing is simply not accurate. The main reason is high-level coaches have attempted to fool their competitors into running this drug incorrectly.
The other reason is that this drug is very unknown so any person can spout bioscience.Luckily I will show you the best way to run it. Because the half-life is only about 4 hours. You want to run this drug primarily pre-exercise at 5-20mgs each time, not exceeding 30mgs total per day.
For example, if you do morning cardio at 9 am, take your dosage at 7 am. If you weight train at 5 pm, then take a dosage again at 3 pm. And if you have sex with your partner at 9 pm, take a dosage at 7 pm.
If you don’t do any exercise this particular day then simply do not use it. This makes more sense than spacing it throughout the day. Because it has a sharp increase in active life within 2 hours of taking it, then it quickly leaves the system.
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My Thoughts on Stenabolic
I have never tried Stenabolic because I am not really interested in increasing my endurance, however if that was a goal of mine I would probably give this SARM a try.
If you want to increase your endurance I would give this SARM a try. I wouldn’t take it for any other reason as there are other SARMs that are more effective for everything else.
[Update]
I have finished an 8 week cycle of SR9009 last week, and it was my first cycle of this compound.
This is actually a pretty amazing drug, I was impressed. My endurance went up dramatically and so did my metabolism.
I experienced similar results to Cardarine and comparing them I would say it’s slightly a weaker version of Cardarine.
So I recommend Cardarine over SR9009 if your goals are to lose fat and increase endurance. Now a good idea would be to stack both of them to get even better results.
Check out my full SR9009 review here.
Where Can I Buy Stenabolic?
Click here if you want to buy legit and super affordable Stenabolic.
Testolone (RAD-140)
Testolone is considered the newest SARM, developed by Radius Health Inc in 2010.
RAD-140 has the highest ratio of anabolic to androgenic activity of any SARM discovered, 90:1.
Testosterone has an anabolic to androgenic ratio of 100:100. This means that Testolone is almost as anabolic as testosterone while being only 1/100th as androgenic.
This is a positive as most of the negative side effects of testosterone, including effects on liver, kidney and prostate, come from its
androgenic effects.
Testolone is minimally suppressive but it is recommended that users run a mini pct after their cycle.
Benefits/What to Expect
Testolone is very comparable to Ostarine, but much more powerful. You can expect to gain 20-25 pounds of muscle in 12 weeks and gain lots of strength.
Also, your gains will be lean and dry.
RAD 140 is very flexible as it is great for gaining lean muscle or for cutting fat while retaining muscle and in some case even gaining some muscle during your cut.
Testolone is said to also strengthen soft tissue as well as increase muscle recovery time.
Negatives/Side Effects
Like most SARMs, side effects are very rare as long as users take the recommended dose. The following side effects become more probable the more users increase their dose past the recommened dose.
- Abnormal body hair growth in women
- Changes in sex drive
- Mood swings
- Nausea and vomiting
Dosing Information
For optimal results take 30mg of Testolone daily for 12 weeks.
Testolone’s half-life is 20 hours, so you can take it once per day.
My Thoughts on Testolone
I tried Testolone once and I don’t recommend it. I only took Testolone for 6 weeks as I accidentally dropped and spilled it on the floor, but in those 6 weeks my results were similar to those of Ostarine.
Since they are so similar, no matter what your goal is I would recommend Ostarine or Ligandrol over Testolone because they are most popular and well researched SARMs. Testolone is on the other end of the spectrum being the newest and least studied SARM.
[Update]
I decided to take Rad 140 again, and finished off a 12 week cycle and boy was I wrong, I now definitely recommend it.
I gained 22 pounds of muscle lean muscle.
My max bench press increased by 60 pounds and my max squat by 80 pounds.
Check out my full Rad 140 review here.
Where Can I Buy Testolone?
If you still want to experiment with Testolone buy the real deal here and don’t forget to get a PCT for your cycle as it’s definitely needed.
Clomid Dosage: Take 12.5mg daily for 30 days.
Conclusion & Final Thoughts
Guys, I want to conclude this post by saying I absolutely recommend SARMs, I achieved great results with no side effects. Just be smart when you take them (read key points).
Final key points:
- For cutting fat while retaining muscle use Ostarine (MK-2866).
- For gaining lean muscle and strength use Ligandrol (LGD-4033) or RAD-140 (Testolone).
- For increasing endurance use Stenabolic (SR9009) or Cardarine (GW-501516)
- For a boost in overall effectiveness with any goal add Nutrobal (MK-677) or YK-11 to your cycle.
- Just to be safe always take a PCT with any SARM, better safe than sorry so don’t be cheap when it comes to your health.
- I recommend Clomid for your PCT, you can buy legit Clomid here without a prescription.
- Check out my complete PCT guide for SARMs.
- Your SARM cycle should be 12 weeks.
- After you complete your SARM cycle and PCT wait at least 6-8 weeks before starting another cycle.
- If you have the money I recommend stacking SARMs to get the best results possible.
- The most powerful SARM stack for both bulking and Cutting, is a 12 week cycle of RAD-140, Cardarine, and Nutrobal. Take the normal recommended dose for all three.
- Always buy your SARMs in liquid form as it makes it less likely to be fake.
- Do your due-diligence when buying SARMs because there are many Pro-hormones being sold as SARMs.
- If you want affordable, legit, 3rd party lab-tested SARMs (and Clomid as well), use the links in this post (personal sources that I personally use).
- And remember, SARMs won’t do all the work for you, so eat good and train hard.
- Check out this article for fat loss and this one for gaining muscle.
- Check out this article to know more on why you should use my source Sarms4Sale to buy SARMs.
- If you are curious about which SARMs companies I tried and why I now stick with my current source check out this article.
Johan says
Hi Jack,
Thnx for sharing your experience and information.
I read alot of things online about blood tests after a SARM cycle. Is this necessary after a 20mg RAD-140 10 week cycle? Or am I just fine after using your recommended PCT?
Thanks
Jack Freeman says
Johan, you are welcome. I don’t think it’s absolutely necessary if you do a blood test every year for your regular checkup. Also you will feel “off” it has effected you in any way. So I wouldn’t say its necessary however I would recommend it just for a peace of mind.
Zech Wheaton says
Hey I couldn’t figure out how to make a new comment. So my question is if your taking 10mg but the bottles are only 50mg and I want to do a 12 week cycle, I would need to buy 17 bottles?
Jack Freeman says
Hi Zech, so that’s 50mg per ML. So depends on the bottle. So for example if you are taking 20mg per day, and a bottle has 30ml at 20mg per 1ml, that would be 30 servings. Hope this clears things u for you.
Darin Dunnagan says
Thank you for the information you have shared.
I am a 48y/o male still trying to stay in shape and size up with some cutting.
Do you recommend for still taking pre & post workout supps along with protein for myself?
What SARM’s do you recommend for middle aged women for cutting and toning?
Jack Freeman says
Hi Darin, besides SARMs, I personally take a pre-workout because I love the energy boost and my post is just a protein shake.
For cutting I recommend Ostarine or Cardarine. Both are great.
Jamie t says
Hey man,
First of all awesome article you seem super knowledgeable about all this stuff. I always get sketched out about trying new supplements but I’ve wanted to try these for a while. I actually did a cycle of SARMS about a year ago and i didn’t really see much difference but I’ve been interested in trying them again. I still play sports and like to stay competitive. What stack would you recommend me going with to try to cut and add muscle ?
Jack Freeman says
Hi Jamie, thanks. Did you use a quality source? If not it could have been bunk, check out this article https://onlyfreedommatters.com/buy-sarms-online/
In my opinion you will see the best results stacking Cardarine with either LGD-4033 or RAD-140.
Jamie t says
Sweet man thanks! And I take a pct after the cycle correct ?
Jack Freeman says
No problem bud, and yes definitely take a PCT after.
Vann says
Hi mate running a cycle of ghrp6 and cjc1295 wandering if I can join rad140 into this cycle and what doses how long
Jack Freeman says
Hey Vann, I dont think it will be a problem, however I cant guarantee it as I have never researched or taken ghrp6 and cjc1295
Ev says
Hi Jack,
Awesome read mate appreciate all of your knowledge.
From doing my study I’m only interested in taking LGD, MK2866 & MK677.
What would be your recommended dosage and time frame for this stack?
Is a PCT also required?
Many thanks,
Ev.
Jack Freeman says
Thanks Ev, and I would run the following stack:
MK2866 – 25mg for 12 weeks
LGD4033 – 10mg for 12 weeks
MK677 – 15mg for 4 weeks then 30mg for 8 weeks
Definitely take a PCT after that cycle.
Dustin says
Is there a benefit to stacking Rad with LGD?
Could one take 140,4033, 9009, 2866 in one cycle? Also currently on TRT.
Jack Freeman says
Hi Dustin, there could be in theory however it would be overkill imo. At most I would stack RAD-140 or LDG-4033, with Cardarine or 9009, with Nutrabol.
Jason says
Jack, Very informative and honest article. Ive been looking into SARMS and am considering Ostarine 25mg. I chose this after you saying it has the least amount of side effects. Is Ostarine alone a good start for a new user or should it be stacked? More importantly, my next question. I have liver disease that causes my AST and ALT numbers to be slightly elevated. I also take 40mg of lasix(diuretic) daily. I don’t want to take anything that is going to raise my numbers to the extreme or just be a waste! Is this something I could safely take or do I stick with the supps I’ve taken forever? Thanks
Jack Freeman says
Hi Jason, thanks! So Ostarine is great in my opinion for a new user, the only thing is I’m not sure if there could be complications due to your liver illness. Cardarine or Nutrobal might be a better option. In my opinion I think you should have a discussion with your doctor and ask him or her if it would be an issue taking any SARMs or PED with your liver condition.
Jason says
Thanks for your honesty. Probably not even worth asking. My Dr thinks lifting anything over 40 lbs is to heavy! Lol.
Marco says
Hi jack!
I’m a beginner with sarms and I’m doing a lot of research about it.
I would like to lose a good amount of fat and gain muscle at the same time
in conclusion I would like to take a stack of ostarine and rad
would you recommend it to me?
Jack Freeman says
Hi Marco, in my opinion the best stack would be RAD-140 and Cardarine.
Adrían Solis says
Hello Jack. What stack would you recommend me to recomp? Rad 140 and ostarine or Rad 140 and cardarine? I am very disciplined with my diet so thats why i dont know what combination take.
Thsnks and best regards
Jack Freeman says
Hey Adrian, in my opinion it’s RAD-140 and Cardarine. It’s the perfect Recomp stack.
Kevin says
Hi Jack,
Hope you are well. I am currently into the 9th week of ligandrol at 20mg once a day, and 3 week into cardarine and ostarine. I have had a blood test on monday this week and it indicated that my blood lipids were off whack. This is quite surprising as I eat super clean. My doctor thinks it is the protein powders but the fat content of my powders is only 2g per serving and i take 2-3 servings a day at the most. The only thing that is different compare to my last test was the sarms. What is your take on this? thanks
Jack Freeman says
Hi Kevin, did your doctor say this is troublesome? I’m not sure it’s the SARMs that effected your Blood Lipids but even if it’s rare it’s still possible. In my case I always go get my labs done 4 weeks after my cycle (once I complete my PCT), and my labs are always normal. So maybe my blood lipids get slightly effected as well but then return to normal after my cycle. My non professional advise to you would be not to worry and finish the remaining 3 weeks, do a 4 week PCT (very important), then go get tested again.
Jack Freeman says
Oh and also, just realized your dose is high for LGD-4033. Since you are stacking it with Cardarine and Ostarine I recommenced cutting down your dose to 10mg per day.
Evan says
Hi Jack,
Great article mate thanks for sharing all of your knowledge.
I’m new to SARMS and it’s doing my head in a little with all the different options and stack combs people go with.
Can you recommend me one or a stack to start with?
And a more advanced stack for later down the track?
I’m 6’0, around 90-93kgs and quite lean.
I would like to cut a little more stomach fat to get that shredded look while adding muscle.
I can’t work out the doses when stacking either, if you could list the doses as well that would be epic.
Many thanks,
Evan
Jack Freeman says
Evan, thanks I appreciate it. In order to gain muscle as you shed some fat you are going to have take a pretty potent stack. I recommend 10mg of LGD-4033 stacked with 20mgs of Cardarine for 12 weeks. Take a PCT after your cycle. I’m the future I recommend a 12 week cycle of 25mg of RAD-140 stacked with 20mg of Cardarine and 30mg of Nutrobal.
Evan says
Thanks for replying Jack. My goal is to eventually get up to Rad but for first off I thought I would go something a little more say tame. What do you think of this program? Any adjustments you recommend?
Mk2866 & Mk677 for 8 weeks..
(10mg each first week
20mg each next 6 weeks
10mg each final week)
Continue with Mk677 while starting a Pct for the following 4 weeks
Then reset my body and take nothing for the next 4 weeks before starting next cycle. ( replacing mk2866 with LGD )
So in total it’s a 16 cycle from start to finish while giving my body the same amount of time on and off mk2866
Jack Freeman says
No problem Evan, and in my honest opinion I would take it for 12 weeks straight, and at 20mg from the get go. You’ll notice great results from week 8 through 12.
Evan says
Ok thanks,
So for 12 weeks.. how lmany weeks after is pct required?
Jack Freeman says
Yes, I would start PCT the day after your cycle ends, and take it for 4 weeks.
Jacob Carlisle says
Hi, I have been doing a lot of research on the best and safest place to buy SARMS. I have seen Proven Peptides get brought up in a few forums and reviews as a legit place but I have also seen reviews that say it’s not legit and is not pure. Can you fill me in on more evidence that suggest it is a safe place to buy SARMS?
Jack Freeman says
Hi Jacob, Proven Peptides is definitely legit and the best quality. I have written an entire post explaining why. Check it out here – https://onlyfreedommatters.com/buy-sarms-online/
Jacob Carlisle says
Thank yo so much for the reply! Another question I have is, do Sarms or Ostarine to be exact, have any impact on DHT and hair loss?
Jack Freeman says
You’re welcome. It’s very very rare that Ostarine would impact you that way. But always have a PCT on hand just in case. With Ostarine you would have to take extremely high doses for it to be Androgenic. The 2 strongest SARMs RAD-140 and LGD-4033 are very potent so always take a PCT after your cycle to avoid having any side-effects.
Tony says
Hi Jack,
Performance enhancing drugs are becoming harder and harder to source legitimately as the authorities governance tightens.
What is the next BIG thing as a drug class (i.e. excluding peptides, and SARMS) and which the authorities have yet to identify
Jack Freeman says
Tony, as of now it’s still SARMs, because they are perfectly legal, as long as they are marketed as “research chemicals” that’s the loophole. However that might come to an end in the future. I stocked up and will continue to stock up just in case that happens.
Mo says
Hey man , good guide. Thank you.
I recently tried some sarms and used rad140, 4 weeks. 1 ml a day, it actually filled me up a bit and I packed on muscle. Would you need a PCT after a 4 week cycle ? WhatPCT?
Also , now that I’m done with the RAD , I wanted to drop some weight and maintain muscle mass. What do you recommend here ? I was thinking of stacking cardarine and mk2866 , thoughts on this m would I need to add sr9009? I’ve been advices to triple stack . What do you think ? Thanks heaps
Jack Freeman says
Hi Mo, you don’t need a PCT since the dose is extremely low and only 4 weeks, curious as to why you took such a low dose and for such a short amount of time? I’m surprised you saw some gains at all to be honest. I guess it goes to show you the power of RAD-140, imagine the potential results after a 12 week cycle at 15ml.
For losing fat while retaining muscle Ostarine stacked with Cardarine is an amazing stack. To see even better results, I would add Nutrabol (instead of sr9009) to the stack.
Garland says
Hi Jack, I have a question. I’m 4 weeks into a SARM cycle; I’m stacking Nutrabol, Ostarine, S4, and Cardarine. I’m trying to lose as much fat as possible. I had labs and some unusual results came back. I had increased platelets, increased neutrophils, lowered lymphocytes, high calcium, low alkaline phosphate, high protein, low sodium, high aspartate aminotransferase, high urea nitrogen, low GFR non black, low GFR black, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, high HDL risk factor, and low HDL cholesterol. Is there anything in this stack that could be causing this? I feel good, but those results are very troubling and I’m not sure if I should just quit this cycle. Thank you in advance for any light you can shed.
Jack Freeman says
Hi Garland. So it’s hard to know if the SARMs caused these issues. Do you know what your labs where before the cycle? And how long ago before the cycle was your last lab? In my honest opinion I highly highly doubt it’s the cycle that caused your unusual labs, because you’ve only been on the cycle for 4 weeks. I would change your diet immediately. Cut all meat just for a couple months. Get your protein from legumes. Also I would cut out the S4. Ostarine will do the job of retaining muscle while you cut. SARMs don’t even mess with your cholesterol. Did you order from my recommended source? The only way I could see the cycle causing this is if you ordered from a bad source and actually received dangerous Pro-hormones instead of quality SARMs.
Garland says
Thanks for your quick response! I haven’t had labs in about a year but I’ve never had those issues. I did buy the SARMS from Proven Petides. I also just started a keto diet, which I used awhile back to lose 49 lbs. I also started feeling bad the evening after labs (some cold or sinus issues). I’m not sure if either could’ve contributed. Other than that I’m taking Redwood and that’s really it.
Jack Freeman says
You’re welcome. I see, how high is your cholesterol and triglycerides? If they are just a tad bit over normal I wouldn’t worry. If they are very high I would cut all meat, just for a couple months to lower those levels. I truly believe the issue is diet or lifestyle related, not because of the SARMs. I never experienced or heard of them causing high cholesterol and triglycerides.
Krikketeer says
Hi Jack,
I was wondering if I could stack ostarine, cardarine and ibutamoren together in a triple stack. Is that a good stack because I’ve several articles of people stacking ostarine with cardarine but never seem to find ibutamoren added to it, although I don’t see why not to…
Jack Freeman says
Hey Krikketeer, you absolutely can. That is a great stack.
Juan says
Hello Jack,
It will be my first time doing SARMs and i noticed that you kept telling other people that they should take a break. How long would this break be? For example for my first cycle ill be taking Ostarine 25mg stacked with MK-677 20mg for 12 weeks. After the 12 weeks how long should my break be before i can start a new cycle?
Jack Freeman says
Hi Juan, in my opinion a 2 month break is perfect before starting another cycle.
Kevin says
Hi again,
Very interesting to read your 180 degree turn around on cardarine. Would you recommend a stack of ligandrol, ostarine and cardarine for cutting and slowly-but-surely dry gains? Many thanks.
Jack Freeman says
Thanks Kevin, I try to keep an open mind and test things for myself before being 100% conclusive. In my opinion I would stack Cardarine with either Ostarine or Ligandrol. They both make great stacks. Ligandrol with Cardarine will give you faster and better overall results.
Kevin says
Thanks – but you wouldn’t necessary stack cardarine, ostarine and ligandrol together? I am really intrigued about this ‘extra pair of lungs’ effect you described about cardarine. I am guessing there is probably little point in stacking cardarine with ostarine as both are cutters? I appreciate your immense knowledge in the subject of sarms and thank you in advance for replying.
Jack Freeman says
Thanks Kevin. I think you misunderstood. I would stack Cardarine with Ostarine or ligandrol. I wouldn’t take both Ostarine and Ligandrol because they are both similar, the difference being that Ligandrol more powerful.
I’m not saying that you couldn’t, and you would see better results, but it’s overkill in my opinion. Instead of taking both Ligandrol and Ostarine you can just take RAD-140 which is the stronger SARM on the market.
Evan says
Hi Jack,
Well now I’m confused.. i thought a great stack would be Ostarine and Ligandrol together as you mentioned above, one is for cutting the other is for building muscle??
Jack Freeman says
That is a great cycle, I find LGD and Cardarine is an even better stack though.
Dennis Wright says
Glad you’re out there Guys,
So here’s my story. I am a 71-year-old man with muscular dystrophy. I have been told by my doctors that I would not live past 55 and again not passed 66. I have been told there is nothing that can be done other than donate my money to the MD society. I have proved them to be wrong and I do the reverse of what I’ve been told to do. An example of that is I am not supposed to work out as this will speed up the muscle wasting caused by my muscular dystrophy. I have found that the muscles disappear faster when they’re soft and out of shape, so I have continued to do my workouts as I have done since I was 20 years old. I eat clean and take as many supplements as I possibly can to maintain as much lean muscle mass as possible. I recently found SARMS and have become very excited about them, so I have started taking Ostarine. I am on TRT so it is my thought that a little suppression would not matter. My question is, since I am on TRT, would you think that doing and 8 to 12 week cycle with Ostarine and immediately do a cycle with Cardarine (Cardarine & TRT being my PCT) and then going back to Ostrine or a different SARM, would be okay? My biggest fear is losing muscle mass in between cycles.
Thanks for your help,
Dennis
Jack Freeman says
Hi Dennis, inspiring story! Just shows what you can accomplish when you put your mind to it. Regarding your question I would not take the Cardarine after the Oatarine. Stack Ostarine with Cardarine and stick with your TRT as your PCT. You won’t lose muscle since you will do TRT after your SARM cycle.
Dennis Wright says
Thanks Jack, it is really nice to get an educated answer to what is to me, a very important question.
Jack Freeman says
You’re welcome
Oscar says
Hello Jack!
I am completely new when it comes to SARMs, I have never taken it in my entire life.So in my first cycle I am only interested in MK-677 and MK2866 since they have least side-effects. The purpose of why I am going to use SARMs is that I want slow steady gains for the rest of my life, I am quite lean naturally so I could stay around 10-12% body fat year round, I kinda never needed to cut in my life since I have always been an ectomorph. It means that I need something that is effectient for my lean bulking. Are these 2 SARMs good for lean bulking year round? What do you suggest my first cycle to look like? Should I combine these 2 SARMs together and cycle them? How long should my cycles be and how long should I off cycle? Or alternate one another so MK-2866 will be my on cycle and MK-677 will be my off cycle? If so is the case, how long on each on/off cycle? Or should I only use MK-677 forever without ever cycling on and off? Or should I only cycle MK-2866? I am asking this since I have never used SARMs in my life. So I need to think long term and I will am planning to stick with this for the rest of my life that is why. What are your suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
Jack Freeman says
Hi Oscar, in my honest opinion I recommend doing a LGD cycle stacked with MK-677. As long as you take a PCT after your cycle you will experience no side effects. I would do 12 weeks of LGD stacked with MK-677 followed by a 2 month break before starting the same cycle again. I head you can stay on MK-677 for much longer but in my opinion I feel it’s better to give the body a break and time to reset.
Oscar says
Thank you so much for replying to me Jack! I just don’t want to notice too huge of gains in just 3 months, I don’t want people to notice that I became that huge in just 3 months, and why did you suggest me to stack it with MK-677, isn’t it better to use MK-677 while off cycle together with PCT? Since I plannig to use SARMs for the rest of my life, isn’t it better to go with some milder SARM like Ostarine instead of LGD as my plan is to get steady lean mucle gains throughtout my life. I don’t know if LGD stacked with MK-677 is something I can use for a lifetime? Maybe it can cause serious side effects if I used it long term? If I happen to use your cycle and want less gains iin 3 months, would it be best to take just 5 mg of LGD and 10 mg of MK-677 for less gains? Also taking something that will boost ur natural testosterone levels abit during on cycle, would it affect the cycle or is it better to take it after? I am talking about for example Ashwaghanda herb. Also while I am off cycle during these 2 months time, will I lose the gains I made in the 3 months cycle? Or atleast notice some difference in size of my muscles and strength?
Jack Freeman says
You can take any of the SARMs for lifetime as long as you take breaks between cycles. In my opinion if you want slow and steady gains just take only Ostarine, no point of taking anything else. Ashwaghanda Won’t help with kickstarting your test after your cycle, take a PCT. I recommend RED, which I mention in the article.
Oscar says
What do you think about taking 20 mg/day Ostarine for 8 week, so called on cycle while I am bulking and 10 mg/day of Nutrobal stacked with 10 mg/day Cardarine during my off cycle of 8 weeks for the rest of my life. Do you think this is a good idea? Is 20 mg/day Nutrobal stacked with 10 mg/day Cardarine too much or that is good? Also what do you think about the 8 weeks on and 8 weeks off cycles? Would I need a pct if I took Ostarine in doses of 20 mg/day for 8 weeks?
Jack Freeman says
That’s a good plan and you will be fine without PCT. However, I would take a short break after the Ostarine and Cardarine cycle, then start over. I never recommend taking drugs for life without any breaks.
Oscar says
Would you suggest taking Nutrobal stacked with another SARMs or would you take it together with PCT after an cycle of SARMs with PCT? Same with Cardarine, would you take it during off cycle while having PCT or would you take it on cycle with another SARMs? My on cycle is Ostarine.
Jack Freeman says
For Nutrobal it doesn’t matter whatsoever. For Cardarine I would stack it with your Ostarine for best results. What I would personally do to simplify things is to stack them all together for 12 weeks and then take PCT.
Oscar says
What is your highest dose you would recommend for me? For all of these SARMs, 20 mg/each for all of them? I think that is too much? I think 20 mg Ostarine, 10 mg Nutrobal, 10 mg Cardarine will be the best considering the prices and side effects?
Jack Freeman says
Oscar, here are the highest safe-range doses for the following SARMs:
Ostarine – 25mgs
Ligandrol – 20mgs
Cardarine – 10mgs
Testolone – 30mgs
Nutrobal – 30mgs
These are the highest safe doses, however you could cut the doses in half and still get decent results.
Oscar Phu says
Okay, thank you so much! Does it come to a point where taking SARMs will not help me anymore? I mean I can’t keep gaining and gaining muscles right? When I hit a plateau with the SARMs, what would you suggest me to do? To take the SARMs to remain the current amount of muscles or stop taking if once hitting a plateau?
Jack Freeman says
You are welcome! I believe you will keep on gaining however less and less as you get closer to fulfilling your genetic potential. I would just keep cycling, your results will still be much better than they would without SARMs.
Oscar says
Some people are saying that the Red-PCT 2.0 is a scam? They don’t any ingredient that are supposed to boost the testosterone levels? Can you confirm it?
Jack Freeman says
Oscar, for me RED-PCT works great and I always notice a huge difference taking it. Check out my post here https://onlyfreedommatters.com/sarms-pct/ where I break it down in detail.
Rey says
Hey Jack, im a newbie when it comes to SARMS I have been doing research and came across your article. I am 6ft about 220lbs with 34% body fat and 23% muscle mass according to a digital scale I have. Either way I am planning on Taking SARMS for body recomp. I plan on taking Ligandrol, Testolone, Ostarine, and Cardarine according to the recommended dosage for a 12 week cycle. I plan on doing morning fasted cardio and then resistance training in the late afternoon. What do you think about this stack and plan? Is there any stack you would recommend for body recomp?
Jack Freeman says
Rey, I recommend take out the LGD. So do 12 weeks of Testolone, Ostarine, and Cardarine at the recommended dosages. Your plan sounds, I would focus on getting into a slight caloric deficit (around 350 calories). Also don’t forget to take a PCT after your cycle because that’s a pretty powerful stack. Stick with it and you’ll see some significant progress.
mike says
I’m 53 have cycled probably a dozen times over last 30 years basically almays the same test/eq/dbol–lol what works works. But i have been reading more and more about sarms and am thinking about a 12 week cut with an hrt dose of cype—-thank you for your information.
Jack Freeman says
You’re welcome Mike, I definitely recommend it! Feel free to share your results.
Jon says
Hello.
I may have missed it but I am finishing up my first cycle of Ostarine. How long do you recommend waiting before beginning another cycle?
Thank for the clearly written information.
Jack Freeman says
Hey Jon, thanks. I would wait 2 months before starting another cycle. I have personally started cycles after 4 weeks in the past with no problems, but 2 months is best just to be safe.
Tango says
Hey I finished a 6 weeks cycle of ostarine it was really good, I would like to know how much time I should wait into my next cycle. The person from who I bought told me the cycle last 6 weeks so I read on this post is 12 weeks so now I would like to know how much time should I wait for the next cycle.
Jack Freeman says
In my opinion since it was a short cycle you should be ok after 4 weeks of rest.
Tango says
Thanks Jack, I was trying to see if I could start after three weeks but Ill wait to four. Thanks
Jack Freeman says
No problem, you probably could but it’s always better to be safe than sorry.
Ben says
Hi Jack –
Great article. I did 12 weeks Ostarine / Cardarine with great results. Gained back some fat due to summer activities and want to start another Ostarine cycle (already back on Cardarine). Been off it for 7 weeks now, you think it’s safe to start back up again?
Jack Freeman says
Thanks Ben appreciate it, and thanks for sharing your experience. I recommend 2 months of rest before starting a cycle again and you are just about there so you’re good to go for another cycle.
Ryan Marvin says
Stupid question – when you stack do you take them at the same time? Or after each other?
I’m guessing standard cal surplus/deficits are needed too?
And can you stack osterine and lingandrol? I have around 9 weeks of my bulk phase left, and then a step 6 week cut. I thought perhaps taking both for 6 weeks, and then dropping lingadrol and sticking with fostering for another 6 weeks.
Jack Freeman says
Ryan, yes stacking means at the same time. In my opinion I see no point of stacking. If you are bulking I would just stick to Ligandrol, then when you start cutting switch to Ostarine. Be sure to focus on being in a caloric surplus/deficit. The only time I would stack is maybe stacking Ostarine or Ligandrol (depending on your goal) with a SARM that helps muscle endurance, like Cardarine.
Kevin says
Hi again Jack, this is potentially a very silly question. I understand people choose sarms over steroids as the side effects are comparatively, less pronounced with sarms. That said, is it still possible to include sarms (eg ligandrol) as part of the steroid cutting cycle involving deca and test e on a calorie deficit diet? I am trying to avoid having to take winstrol as it dries the joints.
Jack Freeman says
Hi Kevin, not a silly question at all. I haven’t taken steroids however many steroid users include SARMs with their post cycle. It dramatically helps solidify and keep the gains from their cycle.
Kevin says
so, not DURING, instead, part of the PCT? Thanks, i always appreciate how promptly you attend to readers’ questions.
Jack Freeman says
Yes, maybe even starting pct like a week before your cycle ends, to kick start the process. Thanks for the kind words!
Romeo says
Hey bro, great article, very well-written.
I’m about to run this:
Weeks 1-8: 10mg MK677
Weeks 1-8: 20mg RAD140
Weeks 1-8: 20mg LGD4033
Weeks 9-13: Clomid/Nolvadex PCT
Only running for 8 weeks with higher doses because that’s all the SARMS I managed to get my hands on.
Your thoughts?
Jack Freeman says
Thanks Romeo. In my opinion I would wait until you can get your hands on some more so that you can run a 12 week cycle, I see the biggest difference in strength and gains in weeks 8-12, and I never took Clomid or Nolvadex but I hear those are a bit rough and probably not necessary with SARMs, unless your taking a very high does, which I don’t recommend.
Kevin says
Hi Jack, great review! Thanks a bunch!
I am about to run a 12 week cycle on the following 4 sarms, all based on your recommended daily dosage.
LGD4033
MK677
MK2866
Yk11
Am I running anything that are potentially counteracting on the others or are just plain redundant. And is novaldex too strong a PCT for this stack? Many thanks
Jack Freeman says
Thanks Kevin. So in my opinion I would remove either the MK-2866 or the LGD-4033, depending on your goals. If you’re bulking remove the MK-2866, if you’re cutting remove the LGD-4033. In my opinion the PCT is definitely overkill.
Shango says
Do i need to be physically prepared first before going on sarms cycle. I mean is there a pre training period first before going on first cycle of sarms. Whats the physical recommendation b4 starting cycle?
Jack Freeman says
Shango,I wouldn’t say that you need to be physically prepared to go on a SARMs cycle.
The thing with SARMs is they will give you results much faster than not taking them would. The question you need to ask yourself is “what do I want to achieve and how fast?”
For example if you wanted to gain 5 pounds in 4 months, then I would say don’t bother with SARMs because you can easily hit that goal without it.
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Scott says
A couple important things to note on YK-11. YK-11 is not really a SARM, it is in fact a steroidal myostatin inhibitor
YK-11 was likely classified as a SARM in an attempt for Yuchito Kanno to get funding to continue the research on his discovery.
When Yuichito first tested YK-11 on C2C12 muscle cells he noticed the ‘sarm’ produces what more factors associated with DHT derivatives even though it is only a partial antagonist of the androgen receptor. And I will have to say that I agree with this from my personal use of it.
YK-11’s chemical structure also possesses not 1, not 2, but 4 methyl groups. Therefore there is potential for liver stain. I would suggest cycles no longer than 4 weeks because of this. This stuff for sure works and will definitely add some nice size but since it does inhibit myostatin, the biggest issue will be the temporary weakening of joints during use. I can attest to this also because both times I used it, my elbows and shoulders got weak as hell around the 3rd week.
These are important things that should be considered
Jack Freeman says
Thanks for your input Scott.
Kevin says
With this weakness you experienced in your shoulders and elbows, how long did it take for it to subside and how did it impact your workout? Many Thanks